If youre tired of such a play-style, Varghulfs will be your go-to doomstack. My army composition wasnt bad but I dont have a lot of room to mess around given the threat. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Why are so many of you using only a single engineer? All By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This can take on 2 full stacks with literally 0 losses if played well, you stall with summons and with the doomwheels if you really need them, I usually just use them to destory some annoying fast units and to run down units. They don't hold well enough, they take too much damage from friendly fire artillery, and they interfere with line of sight for your ratling guns and jezzails. Hammer of the Witches 4x Demigryph halberds Dwarf doomstacks simply dont exist, and this is the closest youll get, but its still a meme. Kind of a mix of random shit and good units, since the AI recruits a little suboptimally: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1997529179. Ratling Guns, Warplock Jezzails, Plagueclaw Catapults, and Warp Lightning Cannons are your best options. 2 talking about this. If you're an existing user, your forum details will be merged with Total War Access if you register with the same email or username. In my own thought process, the assignment of runes seems somewhat situational and dependent on the Lord himself. Edit: regarding the Doomwheel(s): do not just send them into the enemy backline and let them get caught up in meele with a single unit. logos, illustrations, images, names, creatures, races, vehicles, locations, weapons, trade marks of The Creative Assembly Limited. Due to their mass and entity size, getting stuck in infantry blobs isnt too common. They cause terror, significantly reducing the leadership stat of enemy units who are unfortunate enough to be stuck in combat with them. i dont realy play the other factions alot so cant say on them. Pegasus Knights are faster than Hippogryph Knights, making them better suited for the strategy Im about to explain. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. With Count Noctilus as your Lord, you can reduce the Necrofexs Colossus doomstack to almost zero upkeep! trade marks of The Creative Assembly Limited. Quick Note - NEVER sack a Tier 5 settlement, always occupy. Also, I'm trying to figure out once all of the Dwarven LLs are confederated what the optimal runes to give to each of them once you have access to all of them in the forge. What's the advantage of the 2x warpfire throwers versus just adding another 2x to the ratling guns? Stormvermin make decent infantry, and if you just absolutely don't want decent infantry in a doomstack, at least grab a few hellpit abominations to tie up the enemy. Surprisingly good melee stats allow them to chew through low-tier infantry without breaking a sweat. for generic armies i like a plauge priest as the lord then a plauge priest for extra summons. best doomstack is "enough" skavenslaves . Are the doomwheels used to engage the ennemy and make them blob in the same fashion as steam tanks? One of the best ranged units in the game, Waywatchers hit hard from range and can move whilst hidden. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). No doubt the enemy ranged units will be firing on them, so use a Prophetess of Life to heal up your most injured units. All shades also have the Vanguard Deployment trait, as well as stalk. registered trade marks or trade marks of SEGA Holdings Co., Ltd. or its affiliates. Wayyy too many halberds, not nearly enough guns. Then your LL and a Plague mage. Yeah rattlings are too good to pass on, also have you considered rat ogres to protect flanks (mobile with anti large and armor pierce), 1 Ikit. For more information please read our FAQs here. Please register for Total War Access to use the forums. Use the Warplightning Cannons against large enemies and enemy artillery, the Catapults against infantry/enemy ranged units. Khemrian Warsphinxes simply have great stats and incredible animations that allow them to maneuver through infantry easily. I like about 8 Ratling Gunners, 4-6 Jezzails, a couple Warp Cannons, and just a couple Stormvermin to pin down anything troublesome. Valve Corporation. They are not really having a Doomstack. A row of plague based infantry and skrolk leading the charge for a row of mortars and catapults. Heh, I actually JUST posted my skaven doom stack in a different thread here. Plus, if you have them in raid stance they pay for themselves. Also playing mortal empires, is it better to use Ikit Claw as a doom flayer is khaine sword instead of his quest weapon from daemon? Put them on the flanks of your main army and just use them to bury any flanking cavalry units in literally thousands of bodies. 10 settlements, sent a T3-4+ doomstack led by a gobbo shaman(so he has multiples including his own) and just popped waaaagh. The summons are there only for delaying the enemy thus giving time for your weapons to destroy the enemies. Plus, this second stack lets you level up a second warlock engineer! Once you have enough engineers you can dominate everything with army solely composed of jezzails, mortars, plagueclaw catapults, and heroes. So I have been trying to look at youtube videos for current skaven doomstacks and I am mostly seeing videos from 3-1.5 years ago. My main stack is: Ikit Engineer Plague priest 4 plague claws 2 warpstone cannons 4 ratling guns 1 jezzails 5 slaves. The Doomwheel(s) are there to flank and crush the enemy's backline. Great speed and offensive stats, with high armor-piercing damage and animations that knock entire units off their feet. If you believe your item has been removed by mistake, please contact, This item is incompatible with Total War: WARHAMMER II. Workshop Limited, variably registered around the world, and used under licence. You can literally build a pure ranged army and just devastate enemy armies from artillery range. The number of runes that can be given to lords and heroes, unfortunately, does not increase. I would recommend going heavy on your ranged units and using units like doomwheels, hell pit abominations and doom flayers to run around and "intercept" enemy melee with your lord. On weapon team "doomstacks":Master Warlock is better than the Grey Seer for weapon team stacks due to extra -15% upkeep for weapon teams. You only need 5 of the Artifacts to unlock The Lost Vault final battle. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Copyright Games Workshop Limited 2015. This item has been removed from the community because it violates Steam Community & Content Guidelines. Warhammer, the Warhammer logo, GW, Games You need to sign in or create an account to do that. The AI will often get confused and inefficiently manage their formation, giving your Shades more time to whittle down their army. Once a single unit lands, they will stun the charged unit, then the next Pegasus Knight unit will charge and stun them further, etc. The idea is to get a lord, 2 thanes, and a runelord to fight infantry. Turn off Closed Captions on this video. Also, maybe with the exception of Ikit himself, make sure your lords go into the red line asap after you got the +30% ambush chance from the blue tree. All Mine was going that way until I noticed the Skaven in the mountains disappear and the Tzarina stormed through the passes with multiple stacks of Tsar Guard and Streltsi. This + a plague priest to give more rat summons. No matter the difficulty youre playing on, at some point you get tired of manually fighting battles and micro-managing dozens of units. Each hero with the trait will reduce enemy leadership in the region by 5, and this stacks. Workshop, The Game of Fantasy Battles, the twin-tailed comet logo, and all associated I recently started a legendary Ikit claw campaign and I am having a hard time deciding on the best 20 Stack to face different threats. Ruh roh #? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Necrosphinxes are great but struggle to get through masses of infantry, can often get stuck in an anti-large unit. This is what I came up with: 1 Warlock Lord 1 Engineer 7 Stormvermin with Halberds 4 Jezzail 1 Gattling 2 Poison wind mortars 1 Warp Cannon 3 Plagueclaws catapults You dont want to waste ammunition shooting their trash units. The enemy will blob on them, making for easy targets. @Sumdaga - I played the Vortex campaign only so far, and during that, I found that I was able to purchase all the runes available that I wanted very quickly, and did not have enough to equip everyone how I wanted. Use them to repeatedly charge enemy ranged units so that they are occupied with running away and not shooting. All rights reserved. They're very powerful once you have all of the artifacts as Thorek. The more enemy units you are capable of wiping out/making run of the battlefield with 50%+ ammunition, the better. Then send them into melee. Lord (Ikkit or a Warlock Engineer on Doomwheel are your best options), 1-2x Plague Priests (mainly for emergency summons, though all their spells are incredibly good). Use ambush and lightning strike to fight armies one at a time so you aren't overwhelmed and don't run out of ammo during a battle. All you need is 4-6 Doomwheels or Hell-Pit Abominations for a front-line and some Plague Priests, then fill the back-line with your best ranged units. Whe fighting Brettonia it never hurts to bring a couple units of warp grinders, (with the first workshop upgrade) they absolutely annihilate enemy cavalry and on top of that they are great support units all-around. I'm trying to make up an excel to with all of the runes and legendary lord stats and weapon buffs to figure out what is best. I'm curious to know if they raise the limit in the Mortal Empires campaign, please let me know. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 1 Priest. Plague priests are there to summon an emergency meatshield, help pin units in place with surrounds and offer some offensive magic in addition to your Warp Lightning spam. Some buffed up ranged units, preferably with chevrons, will decimate incoming enemy forces. Smells like cheese over hereMy doom stacks are usually balanced mixes of infantry, a couple of monster infantry units, cavalry, and a couple of monsters/artillery, all of them of the highest possoble tier.I never went full star dragons, for example. Enemy artillery is to be ignored, it wont do anything. Its on hard as well around turn 170 had to revert to turn 150. Plague Priests are used for summoning additional rat units to help keep the enemy at bay. Sporting 18-19 of the same unit, with a lord to buff them, makes doomstacks extremely potent. 3 Plagueclaw Catapults. A well-built bretonnia army is effective. [counters random calvary] 1 Warpstone grinder. Valve Corporation. Once a certain agreement over any doomstack is reached, I will include it in this list, as an overview for other players.To kick things of, I'll start with a Clan Skryre doomstack:Grey Seer of Plague5 Plague Priests5 Ratling guns4 Plagueclaw catapults4 Warplock jezzails1 Poison wind mortarsPlease submit your own doomstack suggestion for any faction you're familiar with. Skink Chiefs add additional stats, including poison attacks, to an already amazing dinosaur. What does your end-game skaven stack look like? poisoned-wind mortar & warpfirethrower teams do tons of friendly fire, flayers and wheels do better job surviving the killzone than any infantry. If you are still struggling to deal with flanking units, recruit another lord and fill their stack with skavenslave spears, maybe a couple slingers. For me it would mean AR , for others it would mean how big they e-peen is etc . I'd say that you really need something in the melee range, because AI doomstacks are gonna push something through. They have excellent range and armor-piercing damage. SEGA and the SEGA logo are either So you can legit get enemies to immediately route from the battlefield. The only thing you're missing out on is warpstone tokens but imo is not worth it if you have enough wom from plague priests. Doomstacks are armies that ignore immersion and cohesiveness, favoring raw power instead. To give you an idea of how this army actually deploys and fights a battle with so few melee units, here's a series of screenshots from a battle I did to help a guy struggling vs lizardmen a couple weeks ago. I'm pretty new to playing skaven, but I'm trying a Legendary campaign with Ikit right now. for ikit claw i like about 10 ratling guns, 4 jezails, 3 covid-19 catapluts, ikit claws zap zap cannon, then ikit claw himself and a plauge priests for clan rat sommons. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. An engineer or 2 (army-wide bonus to ranged damage, ammo, and reload), 1-2 plague priests (to summon clanrats in the way), and a whole bunch of ranged units. Ranged and monster spam with plenty buffs stacked on top. 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